thedeadparrot ([info]thedeadparrot) wrote,

Our Stories

[For the Fourth Asian Women Blog Carnival]

You might have heard that Fox has this new show called Glee. I tried watching Glee a few times and couldn't take it, but I think I'm in the minority about that. It happens.

One of the people on my flist made a post about how much she loves the character of Rachel, the "star" of the glee club, who is white and pretty and has a lovely voice. The post says:

Rachel is my favorite and I want her to get everything that she wants. Why do I like Rachel so much? I feel like she's a character that vry well could be unsympathetic, but instead she comes off as vulnerable. I like how she is completely, wholly and uncompromisingly herself in high school even though it gets her nothing but flack. And slurpees in the face. SHE'S VERY TALENTED. GOLD STAR.

There's nothing wrong with this post. Nothing particularly fail-y or offensive.

But, I wanted to say. It's all well and good that you have someone to identify with, but what about me? Who do I have?

There's this other character on Glee named Tina Cohen-Chang. I only got through two episodes of the show (okay, one-and-a-half), but all I learned in those one-and-a-half episodes is that she (a) probably resembles me the closest out of the main cast, (b) she is a backup singer in the glee club, (c) she dresses like a goth, (d) she stutters, and (e) she is not good at anything. She doesn't get slurpees in the face, and it might be that she's uncompromisingly herself considering her wardrobe choices, but we can't see if she comes across as vulnerable or unsympathetic or anything else for that matter. She doesn't get to be talented. She doesn't get a story.

To Hollywood, we have no stories. Nothing beyond what they can take from us and remake into their own image. To them, we are useless, extraneous, ignorable; we all look alike. To them, we do not have our own complicated, strange, beautiful, imperfect lives. To them, we do not get to be the heroes of our own worlds.

But we are. In our own lives, we are the heroes. We make stir fries and dumplings together, and we commiserate over the way our parents guilt us into things, and we watch The Omega Glory to laugh at the racism, and we make fun of our own bad pronunciation of Chinese, and we can hold each other up, hold each other together. And sometimes, our stories will sneak in at the edges.

I think one of the reasons why I love Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon so much is because I saw it in theaters with my father, and I felt closer to myself than I ever had before. The Chinese-ness that always marked me as different was uncomplicated, normalized. The first time I saw a commercial for The Mystery Files of Shelby Woo, I felt amazed that she had her own show. I remember reading The Joy Luck Club and thinking that maybe it didn't really entirely reflect my experience, but I could see myself in the corners, peeking out, in ways I never had before. I think we need more stories like that. Stories that let us be superheroes and supermarket clerks and cops and soldiers and computer nerds and businessmen and reporters and starving artists and pilots and stoned college students and everything in between, because we are all of those things and more. I think we need to keep telling each other our stories, keep submitting entries to Remyth, keep talking to anyone who will listen.

Sometimes, I think about the stories that Tina Cohen-Chang must have that the show may never tell us. Does she go to synagogue with her mother on Fridays and burn incense with her father in the mornings? Did she have a Bat Mitzvah when she turned thirteen? When was the first time she realized no one thought her mom was her mom? Does she sing in the shower? Did she once, in middle school, put on a ridiculous, exaggerated Chinese accent to make the other kids laugh with her instead of at her, only to feel guilty about it days later? Did she decide to become a pagan when she was fourteen? Does she tell everyone she loves the Clash and the Ramones and the Sex Pistols but secretly hides a Jonas Brothers CD underneath her mattress? Does she stand in front of the mirror and practice saying the words she would have liked to use earlier when she was facing down a teacher, another student, her parents? Does she wake up each morning thinking she can't be the lead because she doesn't look right, doesn't act right, doesn't have the right voice?*

I think that last thing might be too depressing for me, so I prefer to believe that her life outside of the glee club is as full and rich as mine is all the time. I prefer to believe that she eats matzo during Passover and likes watching bad Scifi movies and hates cleaning her room, even when her dad guilts her into it. I prefer to believe she's failing math, because she sleeps through class, but she can smoke anyone in the school when it comes writing. I prefer to believe that maybe she thinks The Joy Luck Club is a little overwrought, but when she read it for the first time, she felt a little thrill at being able to understand the bits and pieces of Chinese sprinkled throughout the story.

I prefer to believe that like me, like us, she's complicated and strange and beautiful on the inside in a new age-y sort of way. And maybe the show will give her time to shine and maybe it won't. It doesn't matter really. Maybe someday Hollywood will acknowledge us and our stories, but until then, we have each other, and we have our own truths, our own joys and our own sorrows.

Fuck them if they're not willing to listen.


* Wikipedia and my flist tell me she does get a solo eventually. Cool!
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[info]little_missmimi

October 7 2009, 00:38:33 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  October 7 2009, 00:43:59 UTC

I do agree with your thoughts, but I also love the show despite its shortcomings.

(Just FYI -- Tina has already had a whole song to herself! Except for the very last note, it was awesome. As someone who I've seen act live, I feel that the writers/producers/whoever are doing her a disservice by hardly using her, because she's very talented.)

ETA: I meant that the actress who plays Tina is very talented.

[info]thedeadparrot

October 7 2009, 01:24:20 UTC 2 years ago

I'm glad that you find some truth in my words, but I feel as though this is not a space for you to be talking about how much you love Glee despite its shortcomings.

Look, I'm not exactly shy about talking about my anger regarding the show, and this was an intensely personal post that was focused on other, larger topics. I feel like a decent amount of content in your comment is about *your feelings* about one particular aspect of my post, and not about the way the treatment of Tina on Glee perpetuates the erasure of Asian Americans as people in popular culture.

Which is what I would actually like to talk about.

(Also, I did mention that Tina got a solo in my footnote.)

[info]little_missmimi

October 7 2009, 01:26:53 UTC 2 years ago

I'm very sorry.

I know you mentioned that she has an upcoming one, I was just saying that she's already had one.

[info]spoggly

October 7 2009, 02:33:38 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  October 7 2009, 02:37:08 UTC

Thank you for sharing this post. This line - I think that last thing might be too depressing for me, so I prefer to believe that her life outside of the glee club is as full and rich as mine is all the time. - is amazing.

btw I just ordered this (Secret Identities: The Asian American Superhero Anthology) and thought it might be something that this post lends itself to, but idk if it's something you'd be interested in or not (as in, we both like comics but lol such a subjective genre).

[info]thedeadparrot

October 8 2009, 01:00:15 UTC 2 years ago

I'm glad you liked it!

Also, yes. I totally own a copy already. :D It's pretty good, though about as uneven as you'd expect from that many contributions from very many artists. Still it made me very happy, I gotta say.

[info]spoggly

October 9 2009, 14:27:43 UTC 2 years ago

omg maybe it was your lj where I remembered I meant to buy it MY MEMORY IS FULL OF HOLES SORRY

Oh yay, I'm glad to hear it was good!

[info]amazonziti

October 7 2009, 05:23:03 UTC 2 years ago

What an eloquent post.

I watch Glee -- I enjoy the melodrama and the choreographed songs. But to enjoy that stuff means I have to ignore or swallow or set aside a pretty epic amount of race fail.

I guess I just wanted to let you know that I empathize. The minorities we each identify with are different, and so the stereotypes and marginalization take different forms and get different types of attention. But I very much get what it is like to watch Glee (or, um, almost any show ever), to try and reach for a character who ought to be like me, and to be left with a single cut-out.

Also. On a musical, rather than a racially aware, note: Tina got a solo, sang it beautifully, and struggled only with the last high note. This was in a rehearsal, not a performance. Speaking as a singer with thirteen years of both solo and ensemble experience, the point the show was trying to make (that Tina is not as good a soloist as Rachel) does not fly. In real life, Tina would practice that high note until it was gorgeous and perfect, or she and Mr. Schuster would pick a last note that better flattered her range. Fancy vocal acrobatics is not actually what makes a person a star. I personally find much more beauty in skill and simplicity. But this is not real life, this is Glee. < /rant>

[info]thedeadparrot

October 8 2009, 01:57:07 UTC 2 years ago

Yeah, I don't think it's too much to ask for things other than cut-outs of ourselves, but apparently, very few people agree with me!

And yeah, I wish I could look past Glee's fails, because I like their musical numbers, but alas, I can live happier without that much rage.

[info]viciouswishes

October 8 2009, 06:09:27 UTC 2 years ago

While I haven't watched the show in question (so not for me on many levels), I definitely agree with you about the need to see reflections of oneself on TV and just how many people media currently leaves out. It's a whole big universe out there, and I think the world would greatly benefit from seeing many different faces and viewpoints.

[info]thedeadparrot

October 9 2009, 18:58:59 UTC 2 years ago

Yeah, I can't believe that there just isn't a place for all of us, especially in a format like TV, but yeah. Apparently not.

[info]roga

October 11 2009, 16:08:38 UTC 2 years ago

I've been meaning to comment on this post for a few days, but I have no real idea what to say, other than ♥.

[info]thedeadparrot

October 11 2009, 19:12:17 UTC 2 years ago

:) Many thanks! I appreciate it greatly. ♥

[info]jolantru

November 12 2009, 06:44:29 UTC 2 years ago

Via the AWC...

One word: powerful.

Thank you for your voice.

[info]thedeadparrot

November 13 2009, 02:02:12 UTC 2 years ago

I'm glad you're listening! :)

[info]fantasyecho

November 12 2009, 15:16:16 UTC 2 years ago

Does she wake up each morning thinking she can't be the lead because she doesn't look right, doesn't act right, doesn't have the right voice?

This is so true.

Great post. I know someone who writes about the disability fail of Glee, but hadn't seen anything about Tina. Thanks for this.

[info]thedeadparrot

November 13 2009, 02:07:44 UTC 2 years ago

Heh, yeah, the disability fail is pretty strong, though I don't really have the background to really deconstruct it. One of the (dubious) joys of Glee is that there is plenty of fail to go around.

[info]kyuuketsukirui

November 13 2009, 05:20:59 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  November 13 2009, 05:21:31 UTC

When I saw the first episode of Glee, I was happy that Tina seemed less stereotyped than the other minority kids (she's gothy! They didn't make her a nerd!), but that little bit of good was quickly outweighed by the fail. There's been nine episodes now, and she's probably had fewer lines all together as Rachel has per episode.

And as someone said above, the whole "Rachel is a million times better than anyone else" thing the show has going is demonstrably false. The other girls are great singers, but it's always Rachel, Rachel, Rachel.

(Here by way of the Asian Women Carnival, btw.)

[info]thedeadparrot

November 13 2009, 17:01:44 UTC 2 years ago

Man, I was hoping that the TV format would mean that she would be getting more to do as the season went on, but I guess that was giving the show too much credit. :/

[info]lady_ganesh

November 14 2009, 03:52:19 UTC 2 years ago

Total agreement. I'm still watching the show (well, I'm a couple weeks behind), but I'm increasingly disappointed, especially with the focus on Rachel and, er, Finn. Who's so memorable as a lead I can't remember his name half the damn time.

[info]kyuuketsukirui

November 14 2009, 04:16:46 UTC 2 years ago

I am pretty much caught up, though I still haven't watched this week's ep because it's a Very Special Episode about Artie and I just know it's going to be a horrible mess of ablist fail while the writers are all patting themselves on the back for how they're doing such a good job at ~*~diversity~*~. *gag*

[info]lady_ganesh

November 14 2009, 03:53:09 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  November 14 2009, 03:53:30 UTC

This is a wonderful post. Thank you.

(Edited because I grabbed the wrong kiss.)

[info]thedeadparrot

November 14 2009, 16:35:54 UTC 2 years ago

You're welcome! I'm glad you got something out of it.

Anonymous

January 27 2010, 02:38:42 UTC 2 years ago

This. A thousand times. We need writers who will give us stories. Even when they're using the stereotypes, they could still let the characters breathe. Instead, they're props, like a potted palm, for the "real" people on the show. And we're supposed to be grateful that there are palms at all, and not complain too much or they'll take them away and then there won't be any prop minorities at all, and how much would *that* suck?

[info]thedeadparrot

January 27 2010, 22:45:10 UTC 2 years ago

And we're supposed to be grateful that there are palms at all, and not complain too much or they'll take them away and then there won't be any prop minorities at all, and how much would *that* suck?

Yeah, I see this argument come up a lot. "Aren't you glad that they at least have minorities at all?"

And my reaction is basically, "Are we still in the Sixties still?" Too many people are still patting themselves on the back for representing minorities at all, and I would like the conversation to now move on in our understanding of how this works.

But I guess that would mean giving a shit about the feelings and lives of non-white, non-able-bodied people, and that's just too difficult.
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